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QRO got an early Christmas present: a chance to talk with
the one-and-only Tori Amos. In the
chat, the iconic singer/songwriter discussed her new holiday album, Midwinter
Graces (QRO review), her upcoming musical The
Light Princess, her writing process,
combating fear, regrets, Swift & Gaga & Lennon & McCartney, favorite
holiday traditions (including Santa & Kali), World War II, and more...
QRO: Hey, Tori.
Tori Amos: Hi there, Dese'Rae. How are you?
QRO: Good, how are you?
TA: Very well.
QRO: Awesome.
Alright, we've got such a quick interview; I've just got a grab bag of
questions here.
TA: Okay.
QRO: Okay, so, you've got your new album, Midwinter
Graces. I wanted to know what your favorite holiday tradition is or
what one tradition you've created for your family is?
TA: Well, one of my favorites is Christmas dinner, and
that's my mother's fried chicken. Southern
fried chicken.
QRO: Mmm... good stuff.
TA: Yeah, I'm not a turkey person. Once in a blue moon, y'know, but it's not my thing
usually. So, my mom makes that and
my husband's pretty wicked in the kitchen, so he helps my mother and we have
Christmas at our beach house. My
folks live about half an hour north, and we meet up with Tash's [daughter
Natashya Lórien Hawley] cousins. My sister has five kids from 16-24, so
we meet up with them usually every year.
That's a tradition we've created.
Before Christmas, of course.
"I like to write on the road, mainly because you
have different sights and sounds and you don't fall into the same routine that
you can when you wake up in the same place day after day, night after
night." QRO: Does Tash believe in Santa?
TA: Oh yeah.
QRO: Really?
That surprises me.
TA: Yeah, she does.
She also believes in Kali.
[Laughter on both ends]
She has all kinds of beliefs.
QRO: I love it.
So, I heard that this album doesn't count toward your contract, and I
was wondering what was next.
TA: Oh, um, well, I'm finishing writing this musical, The
Light Princess, which is something that
I've been developing with Samuel Adamson, the playwright, along with the
producer Tim Levy, who's out of New York now. He's New York-based, although he was with the British
National Theatre for a long time.
And so it's a mixture of American and British, um, people together.
QRO: Which will be nice. It'll be opening in London, right?
TA: Well, we'll see where it's opening. It'll be work-shopped in the spring in
London, and after the three-week workshop, I think everybody will decide the
best place for where it should open.
QRO: Okay. I
was wondering what your writing process looks like with regards to your music.
TA: Well, I like to write on the road, mainly because you
have different sights and sounds and you don't fall into the same routine that
you can when you wake up in the same place day after day, night after
night. And you can fall into a routine
when you're doing that, but as a writer, I don't like to fall into a cliché
pattern, so I push myself to travel.
Touring is just part of my life, so it all works together that I travel
while I'm touring.
QRO: Here's one-I think this is my favorite question-I
wanted to know how you combat fear.
TA: Well, you have to confront the issue that's causing you
fear. You know that saying, "If
it's too loud, turn it up?" You
have to go into that place of... if you're being intimidated by an idea or
thought, you have to hold your ground and look it right in the eye. And that's tricky sometimes, because
whatever you're confronting might be more slippery than a-well, I don't
know-and that could just be information, crap your friends are telling you
about something. You know, you
don't... sometimes. Fear comes
because you don't know what to believe.
QRO: Right.
TA: What you're facing, what fear you're facing, it doesn't
mean you're going to be getting the truth from it. And that's scary, too.
QRO: Definitely.
TA: So when you're facing a fear, whether it's in a
relationship at work or personal, um, you know, you have to go back to
instincts and making sure that they're razor sharp and a place of neutrality is
the most powerful place you can be to confront a fear. You have to be okay that things don't
work out the way you're fantasizing.
QRO: Right.
Which is also hard.
TA: Which is also hard. But neutral is... when you're facing a fear, I try and step
into a place of neutrality, where everything doesn't have to end okay. Everything doesn't end with a hug.
QRO: Okay.
Um, here is kind of a-taking it back a little bit, but the last I heard,
you never got a chance to meet Greg from "Pretty Good Year" and you never heard
from him. Is that still the case?
TA: That's still the case, yeah.
QRO: That's insane.
TA: Mmhmm...
QRO: Do you have any quirks that are reserved solely for
alone time?
TA: Yeah.
Yeah. Yes. [laughs] That's okay.
That's why you marry who you marry, and that's why your kid is your kid
and hopefully, they enjoy them.
QRO: [laughs]
Yes. Well, what are you listening
to and/or reading right now?
TA: Listening to I keep pretty much to myself.
QRO: Oh.
TA: Reading... we were just in Poland, and we got a lot of
material on Auschwitz. We went
there, and um, it was some pretty harrowing reading, as you can imagine. Just different accounts from all
different viewpoints. Um, one
thing that I found fascinating was... I went to Churchill's war room, and I was
reading a lot of-I had a few books on that whole time, that he was able to
conduct the war, a lot of it, from underground in the war room when they were
being bombed. And that his wife
was there and she had a place.
Underground. And they had a
flat above where they were when the bombings weren't occurring and they could
go upstairs. I don't think they
enjoyed it down there, but just to see what they went through at that
time. That was from both sides, so
seeing how the people in the camps were, what their story was, and then seeing
the story of the Allies who were fighting.
"I find that
when I have to be right over being smart, which can achieve the win that you're
wanting to achieve, that you usually look back and wish you were smart instead
of needing to be right." QRO: That's really interesting. Hmm... I'm kind of interested in how you feel about this new
guard of female pop stars who are kind of taking over lately, like Lady Gaga
and Taylor Swift, and whether or not their fame is valid.
TA: Well, of course their fame is valid. I think Lady Gaga is very entertaining.
QRO: Me too.
TA: She's very entertaining, and we need some entertainment
about now. Taylor Swift seems to...
she writes her songs, and there's something to be said for the fact that both of
them are musicians as well as performers.
And what you might-well, not just you, but what one might think about
those songs; whether they think they're in the league of Lennon or McCartney,
that's a different conversation.
But not everybody can be in the league of Lennon and McCartney. That doesn't mean they're not
entertaining.
QRO: True.
TA: But for those that are in the league of Lennon or
McCartney, then that's for you all to highlight as well. That's not my job. And those who are will be known in ten,
fifteen, twenty years' time. And
history will support that. It's
hard sometimes when it's happening to be able to christen that.
QRO: Okay, so I guess my last question is a pretty broad
one and I wanted to know if you had any regrets.
TA: I think you always have some regrets. Sometimes they're little. It's how you handle certain
situations. I go back to that thing,
"Be smart, not right." I find that
when I have to be right over being smart, which can achieve the win that you're
wanting to achieve, that you usually look back and wish you were smart instead
of needing to be right.
QRO: Sage advice.
Thank you, Tori.
TA: Lovely to speak with you. Happy holidays to you.
QRO: And to you.
Thanks so much.
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